Comments for Rumbelow (rŭm'-bĭ-lō): A combination of meaningless syllables http://rumbelow.org Things are not what they seem; nor are they otherwise. Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:33:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 Comment on Things: We Forget To See God by Billy http://rumbelow.org/2010/things-we-forget-to-see-god/comment-page-1/#comment-5299 Billy Mon, 08 Feb 2010 05:29:09 +0000 http://rumbelow.org/?p=250#comment-5299 Interesting! I agree that we have these bodies and these minds and these freely made choices and we have got to USE them. We certainly have power over things like how often we smile, what shoes we wear, what we do with our bodies... in fact, we have a LOT of humanly control over our lives. I'd like to know what goes through your head when you say, "I as an individual" with regards to just about anything. It would be nice to waltz through your mind as you contemplated what it meant to be a self, and individual, a "me." When I think about that phrase, I call to mind that I am made of this matter, which is the physical emanation of the Divine. The air I breath, the hands I type with, the papers I sign, these are piece of the Divine rubbing against each other. I am an individual human, but I guess I skim over that and focus on seeing that I cannot make myself separate from my Source. We are not powerless within the understanding of being one with and part of the eternal, all-pervading Divine; I would restate my position to say that without God, nothing is possible. We have no power outside of the power G-d gives us. Does that restate it better? Interesting! I agree that we have these bodies and these minds and these freely made choices and we have got to USE them. We certainly have power over things like how often we smile, what shoes we wear, what we do with our bodies… in fact, we have a LOT of humanly control over our lives.
I’d like to know what goes through your head when you say, “I as an individual” with regards to just about anything. It would be nice to waltz through your mind as you contemplated what it meant to be a self, and individual, a “me.”
When I think about that phrase, I call to mind that I am made of this matter, which is the physical emanation of the Divine. The air I breath, the hands I type with, the papers I sign, these are piece of the Divine rubbing against each other. I am an individual human, but I guess I skim over that and focus on seeing that I cannot make myself separate from my Source.
We are not powerless within the understanding of being one with and part of the eternal, all-pervading Divine; I would restate my position to say that without God, nothing is possible. We have no power outside of the power G-d gives us. Does that restate it better?

]]> Comment on Things: We Forget To See God by uga47 http://rumbelow.org/2010/things-we-forget-to-see-god/comment-page-1/#comment-5298 uga47 Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:54:40 +0000 http://rumbelow.org/?p=250#comment-5298 I agree with some of this but I have to say that I don't believe that we are powerless. I think that God gives us the freedom to make our own choices and control a lot of things in our lives in order to allow for us to make mistakes and make our own paths. Yes, I think that God does have an effect on our lives and has a hand in the way things work but I know that I as an individual have the ability to make my own choices and control the majority of what happens to me. With prayer I can gain clarity about things and through faith I can see things from another perspective but none of this will affect the control that I have on my own life, only my mind can be affected by my faith. The choices that I make as a result of this faith are obviously directed by my faith in God, but in no way am I powerless. I agree with some of this but I have to say that I don’t believe that we are powerless. I think that God gives us the freedom to make our own choices and control a lot of things in our lives in order to allow for us to make mistakes and make our own paths. Yes, I think that God does have an effect on our lives and has a hand in the way things work but I know that I as an individual have the ability to make my own choices and control the majority of what happens to me. With prayer I can gain clarity about things and through faith I can see things from another perspective but none of this will affect the control that I have on my own life, only my mind can be affected by my faith. The choices that I make as a result of this faith are obviously directed by my faith in God, but in no way am I powerless.

]]> Comment on I Like Mantras: Think. Everything is Beautiful by Things: We Forget To See God | Rumbelow (rŭm’-bĭ-lō): A combination of meaningless syllables http://rumbelow.org/2009/i-like-mantras-think-everything-is-beautiful/comment-page-1/#comment-5297 Things: We Forget To See God | Rumbelow (rŭm’-bĭ-lō): A combination of meaningless syllables Fri, 05 Feb 2010 04:25:00 +0000 http://rumbelow.org/?p=138#comment-5297 [...] a very similar style to the evolution/discovery of a mantra from a while back…  I am frustrated with my abilities regarding expressing myself.  What do [...] [...] a very similar style to the evolution/discovery of a mantra from a while back…  I am frustrated with my abilities regarding expressing myself.  What do [...]

]]> Comment on and God Noticed… by Billy http://rumbelow.org/2010/and-god-noticed/comment-page-1/#comment-5296 Billy Sat, 23 Jan 2010 20:58:00 +0000 http://rumbelow.org/?p=242#comment-5296 You are correct! I just checked and even the Hebrew uses the same root word that God and the serpent (The Hebrew people had no concept of the Devil, as such, until around 300 B.C.E.) speak. It is worth noting that the word "mooth" -- to die -- can be a spiritual death, a physical death, or it can even be translated to having to do with crying. Nonetheless, you are right that the serpent spoke directly opposing God's words. If I have seined through the text correctly, NOTHING died before the fruit of knowledge of good and bad was eaten. Everyone seemed to be a fruitetarian --- eating fruit doesn't even kill the plant (as eating a potato, for example, would). After being expelled from the garden, the cycle of life takes a new form and death AND birth are put into the picture. (Don't forget that the word for knowledge is the same as the word for sex) The Tree of Yidah (sex / knowlege)... can this be a coming of age story? It's weird to think that they DO die that day, but are given a new way to live --- through their children. Oh paradoxical Hebrews. In conjunction with your Jeremiah passage (I love the way Jeremiah changes voices around chapter 30...), I'd propose reading Micah 6:6-8. (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=micah%206:6-8&version=NIV) In case someone ever gets entangled in going through the motions and forgets the important parts, or if someone is worried about the fundamentals of pleasing Him, remember that he draws the oppressed out of their suffering, and that seems to be what he wants us to do. Thank you for contributing, RSB. Your thoughts are appreciated! You are correct! I just checked and even the Hebrew uses the same root word that God and the serpent (The Hebrew people had no concept of the Devil, as such, until around 300 B.C.E.) speak. It is worth noting that the word “mooth” — to die — can be a spiritual death, a physical death, or it can even be translated to having to do with crying. Nonetheless, you are right that the serpent spoke directly opposing God’s words.

If I have seined through the text correctly, NOTHING died before the fruit of knowledge of good and bad was eaten. Everyone seemed to be a fruitetarian — eating fruit doesn’t even kill the plant (as eating a potato, for example, would). After being expelled from the garden, the cycle of life takes a new form and death AND birth are put into the picture. (Don’t forget that the word for knowledge is the same as the word for sex)

The Tree of Yidah (sex / knowlege)… can this be a coming of age story?

It’s weird to think that they DO die that day, but are given a new way to live — through their children. Oh paradoxical Hebrews.

In conjunction with your Jeremiah passage (I love the way Jeremiah changes voices around chapter 30…), I’d propose reading Micah 6:6-8.
(http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=micah%206:6-8&version=NIV)

In case someone ever gets entangled in going through the motions and forgets the important parts, or if someone is worried about the fundamentals of pleasing Him, remember that he draws the oppressed out of their suffering, and that seems to be what he wants us to do.

Thank you for contributing, RSB. Your thoughts are appreciated!

]]> Comment on and God Noticed… by rachelsarah http://rumbelow.org/2010/and-god-noticed/comment-page-1/#comment-5295 rachelsarah Sat, 23 Jan 2010 17:58:05 +0000 http://rumbelow.org/?p=242#comment-5295 Hmmm... but I think the serpent DID lie! In 2:17, God speaking, "but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die." Then in 3:4, serpent speaking, "You will not surely die..." He craftily told an outright lie, but to further stir confusion, mixed it with truth! In the second part of 3:4 he says, "for God knows when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." Which is exactly what happened in 3:7. I think the devil has the same tactics he's always used from that time to now. And the miserable thing about that is... it all still works on us! Why change your tactics if they fool people with every language, interest, social or economic level, any era through time...? But it sure is encouraging to continue working!! I agree with my whole heart on that. I think hope and knowing that I don't have to worry about what the future will bring, these are the direct result for knowing that "God will see to it that it is good" as you say. Jeremiah 29, in particular, verses 11-13 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=jeremiah%2029&version=NIV) declare this. :) Hmmm… but I think the serpent DID lie! In 2:17, God speaking, “but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.” Then in 3:4, serpent speaking, “You will not surely die…” He craftily told an outright lie, but to further stir confusion, mixed it with truth! In the second part of 3:4 he says, “for God knows when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” Which is exactly what happened in 3:7.

I think the devil has the same tactics he’s always used from that time to now. And the miserable thing about that is… it all still works on us! Why change your tactics if they fool people with every language, interest, social or economic level, any era through time…?

But it sure is encouraging to continue working!! I agree with my whole heart on that. I think hope and knowing that I don’t have to worry about what the future will bring, these are the direct result for knowing that “God will see to it that it is good” as you say. Jeremiah 29, in particular, verses 11-13 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=jeremiah%2029&version=NIV) declare this.

:)

]]> Comment on Lessons in Suffocation: Part 2 by Lessons in Suffocation: Part 3 | Rumbelow (rŭm’-bĭ-lō): A combination of meaningless syllables http://rumbelow.org/2009/lessons-in-suffocation-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-5294 Lessons in Suffocation: Part 3 | Rumbelow (rŭm’-bĭ-lō): A combination of meaningless syllables Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:43:49 +0000 http://rumbelow.org/?p=51#comment-5294 [...] Lessons in Suffocation: Part 2 | Main | Activism and Civil Conscience [...] [...] Lessons in Suffocation: Part 2 | Main | Activism and Civil Conscience [...]

]]> Comment on Lessons in Suffocation Part 1 by Lessons in Suffocation: Part 3 | Rumbelow (rŭm’-bĭ-lō): A combination of meaningless syllables http://rumbelow.org/2009/lessons-in-suffocation-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-5293 Lessons in Suffocation: Part 3 | Rumbelow (rŭm’-bĭ-lō): A combination of meaningless syllables Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:43:31 +0000 http://rumbelow.org/?p=50#comment-5293 [...] I am going to wrap up and reflect on the previous two posts (post one) (post two) in a different voice / tense than before.  This post will make more sense if [...] [...] I am going to wrap up and reflect on the previous two posts (post one) (post two) in a different voice / tense than before.  This post will make more sense if [...]

]]> Comment on Activism and Civil Conscience by Dying to the Cause of Living | Rumbelow (rŭm’-bĭ-lō): A combination of meaningless syllables http://rumbelow.org/2009/activism-and-civil-conscience/comment-page-1/#comment-5290 Dying to the Cause of Living | Rumbelow (rŭm’-bĭ-lō): A combination of meaningless syllables Sun, 19 Apr 2009 21:54:14 +0000 http://rumbelow.org/?p=53#comment-5290 [...] Activism and Civil Conscience [...] [...] Activism and Civil Conscience [...]

]]> Comment on Birdlips, Spaghettifest, and Dying to the Self by Dying to the Cause of Living | Rumbelow (rŭm’-bĭ-lō): A combination of meaningless syllables http://rumbelow.org/2008/birdlips-spaghettifest-and-dying-to-the-self/comment-page-1/#comment-5289 Dying to the Cause of Living | Rumbelow (rŭm’-bĭ-lō): A combination of meaningless syllables Sun, 19 Apr 2009 21:51:05 +0000 http://rumbelow.org/?p=33#comment-5289 [...] This is a real quick update on a topic I posted about a while back.  Here is the post! [...] [...] This is a real quick update on a topic I posted about a while back.  Here is the post! [...]

]]> Comment on Lessons in Suffocation: Part 3 by Billy http://rumbelow.org/2009/lessons-in-suffocation-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-781 Billy Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:20:01 +0000 http://rumbelow.org/?p=52#comment-781 Brian, I completely agree with you --- the thing is that if we experienced ALL the exact same experiences, we WOULD be the same people. I mean this down to the ridiculously infinitesimally experiences, like if we had the same parents and they took the exact same number of breaths while we were developing in mom's womb, etc. No differently than the fact that I can't choose whether Mahayana or Theravada Buddhism calls to me more, I can't say that any of the wills of other people are in their own control. Their choices, yes, but not their wills. It makes it difficult to reconcile the fact that I was wronged with this philosophy, and it makes it difficult to know when and how to stand up for myself with regards to the event, but it is a major way for me to understand things right now. Felicity-Alicia, as I told your boyfriend, I don't believe in badness. Don't wish these "bad" things didn't happen, but hope and encourage. Make them into good things, conquer them. Let them destroy you physically and show them that you are more than just your body. Show society that you are something different, show them that you are not alone. When you tell me, "I wish you loved yourself as much as I love you," think about the sincerity in those thoughts. If only I could see it through your eyes, you think, then I'd understand. But I do! I KNOW that your love for me is equal to mine for you, and I KNOW that my desire for you to see it matches mine for you, and all the sudden I UNDERSTAND how much I am lovely. I just forget that now and then. I encourage you to try the same thing --- use mine or JJ's or your sister's or anyone's love for you as an example. Brian,
I completely agree with you — the thing is that if we experienced ALL the exact same experiences, we WOULD be the same people. I mean this down to the ridiculously infinitesimally experiences, like if we had the same parents and they took the exact same number of breaths while we were developing in mom’s womb, etc. No differently than the fact that I can’t choose whether Mahayana or Theravada Buddhism calls to me more, I can’t say that any of the wills of other people are in their own control. Their choices, yes, but not their wills. It makes it difficult to reconcile the fact that I was wronged with this philosophy, and it makes it difficult to know when and how to stand up for myself with regards to the event, but it is a major way for me to understand things right now.

Felicity-Alicia, as I told your boyfriend, I don’t believe in badness. Don’t wish these “bad” things didn’t happen, but hope and encourage. Make them into good things, conquer them. Let them destroy you physically and show them that you are more than just your body. Show society that you are something different, show them that you are not alone. When you tell me, “I wish you loved yourself as much as I love you,” think about the sincerity in those thoughts. If only I could see it through your eyes, you think, then I’d understand. But I do! I KNOW that your love for me is equal to mine for you, and I KNOW that my desire for you to see it matches mine for you, and all the sudden I UNDERSTAND how much I am lovely. I just forget that now and then. I encourage you to try the same thing — use mine or JJ’s or your sister’s or anyone’s love for you as an example.

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